Friday, September 25, 2009

Some things are so predictable


It's pretty much a given that Georgia is a red state, chock full of teabaggers and states rights foamers who fuss constantly about socialism, the intrusive federal government, and abolishing all taxes.  The opinion blogs on the AJC are full of rants about how evil the Democrats are, Obama wasn't born in this country, and we're all going to hell in a handbasket because of the meddlers in Washington, DC.

Then we had a flood.

You guessed it. 

The cry has changed from "Obama's a socialist!" to "Give me a FEMA check!!" and complaining that the federal disaster declarations didn't go out fast enough and don't cover a wide enough area. 

Totally typical.  This state is full of people who don't want to pay taxes, don't think they should pay any attention to government regulations, and spend a lot of time fulminating about individual responsibility and getting government off our collective backs.  As soon as something goes wrong, though, they're right there demanding help immediately, and bitching when it's not delivered fast enough. 

Once their living rooms dry out, it's also totally predictable they'll go right back to ranting about socialism and getting the government off their backs.  In fact, it's totally predictable they'll also bitch about the process, the financial assistance being inadequate, and the response being too slow.  For some people, there are no learning experiences.

13 comments:

Bartender Cabbie said...

Nan,
I take a little issue with your post today. Enjoy your blog but must disagree here. The Federal Govt job is to assist in the event of natural disaster (which it does not seem to do too well anyway). It is very similar to the job of defending the nation. It all ties in. What people take issue with is a government that is becoming more and more invasive in every aspect of their lives. This is not a new thing of course and President Obama can not rationally be blamed but the fact remains; the federal government is becoming too large and intrusive.

Imnotbenny said...

I agree with Nan 100% on this one. I see this same attitude a lot and wonder why the irony seems to be lost on these people.

I think that overall, we are just extremely fortunate in this country, and have a tendency to act a little spoiled.

Professor Chaos said...

Reminds me of Homer Simpson: "Idon't even believe in Jeebus!" "AAH, Save me Jeebus!"

Anonymous said...

My view is that a lot of Americans are becoming increasingly tired of the hypocrisy. President Bush increased the size of our government more than any other president in history. He also grew government more and more intrusive in our lives, with warrantless wiretapping and eavesdropping on our phone conversations, high level security checks at airports. Any decent of the president was decried as anti Americanism. Now the same people who voted him in office are outraged as to the size and intrusion of government? I’m sorry but you can’t have it both ways, either you want less government in your lives, including federal aid and assistance or you don’t

Anonymous said...

Those on the right in Georgia and across the nation can pound sand...

They are loud and stupid and paint themselves as being loud and stupid. Who cares what they say? The more stupid crap they say the more votes they will lose. As for Nan/Imnotbenny yeah I gotcha you're big government RIGHT HERE! Being stupid isn't just on the Right I guess... Military Industrial Complex... Talk to me when you can understand Ron Paul is a racist dip-shit!

Anonymous said...

"The Federal Govt job is to assist in the event of natural disaster (which it does not seem to do too well anyway). It is very similar to the job of defending the nation. It all ties in."

Presumably this could be accomplished by a few boats sailing around and picking people off rooftops. I don't see why the fed should do things like provide food and medicine to the survivors.

Anonymous said...

The people of Georgia could tax themselves to provide adequate disaster insurance and preventative measures like dikes & levies.

Instead they ignore the 5 year cycle of flooding and rely on the rest of us to pay their way.

Just because the GOP screams about socialism doesn't make them capitalists or even libertarians, they are plutocrats who motivate their brownshirts only by threatening their ill gotten federal entitlements.

The vast majority of Republican states receive more in federal money than they pay in in federal taxes, this is wrong.'

The only way to end the failed ideology that is the modern republican party is to start making them live by their own principles, this started for their profligate sexual morality after the Clinton coup d etat attempt. Now it has to be done fiscally.

Plenty of Georgian republicans had nasty things to say when it was Black people drowning in New Orleans, jesus and abraham lincoln had plenty to say about just deserts.

Fiscal Responsiblity? Sure, but you 1st e.g. Ron Paul's district got BILLIONS of federal aid after Katrina. Real libertarian.

Sam Holloway said...

What people take issue with is a government that is becoming more and more invasive in every aspect of their lives.

Sorry, B.C., but I call b.s. on this one. Where were the teabaggers when Bush was flouting the already Orwellian FISA regulations? Where were they when the Bushies rolled out the totalitarian-sounding "Homeland Security" behemoth? Does the PATRIOT Act ring a bell? No, the teabaggers talk about 'intrusiveness,' but they're still only reading from Lee Atwater's script ('you can't say "nigger" anymore, so you complain about big, intrusive government instead').

Nan's illustration couldn't be any clearer: they like 'big government' when it's funneling other folks' tax dollars to them-- emergency or not-- but when they imagine their own money going to 'those people' (e.g. in the form of government-run health care, which, ironically, isn't even being offered) it is evil big government socialism. It's so gratifying to see that the GOP can still play this reliable card.

Tracy said...

You're right. Nevermind the fact that the government orders us all around, controls to the maximum extent possible every aspect of our lives, and takes under threat of violence 50% or more of our personal productivity. That is just our patriotic duty; it doesn't give us the right to expect anything in return.

No, actually, it has been my observance that those who demand that the government save them from any adversity and reimburse any personal loss are the same folks who line up every election to vote Democrat. I know many,many people who wish for much less government than we are currently saddled with, and as a general rule, when bad stuff happens they simply buckle down and do whatever is necessary to help themselves, their families and neighbors. And if they don't happen to have what they need to deal with a situation, they call on not the government, but family, friends, neighbors, and/or fellow church members to help them. This is for the same reasons that, if my vehicle breaks down, I will move it out of the way and try to fix it myself. If I am unable to do so, I call a tow truck (that I will have to pay for) or a friend with a trailer. The last thing I want to see is a cop, who will only complicate matters by telling me I must have it towed within a certain time (like right now), perhaps by the particular tow service that the local government has a contract with; and I of course may not walk on the side of the road, and by the way let me see some ID, registration, proof of insurance, where are you going/coming from, do you have any weapons in the vehicle, how about opening the trunk?

Those who are talking about socialism are not just in the South. Nor did they just start talking about socialism since Obama has been in office. You know, Nan, that I didn't just start recently.
Those of us who don't want the government to control everything don't change our minds just because something happens. The ambulance services, for example, are private enterprises, here at least, and they do a fine job.
Let me close with a comparison of government versus private service in an example I am familiar with.
When we moved here, I initially was planning to forgo trash pickup, preferring to deal with it myself rather than pay the exorbitant monthly fee the government-operated service charges. Nothing doing; they sent me a monthly bill anyway, and when I didn't immediately pay it, they sent a certified letter threatening arrest if I didn't remit payment within ten days. Now, a year later, they still haven't dropped off the trash can they are supposed to supply, so I am still using the can I bought.
A neighboring county doesn't have government-run trash pickup. Instead a private service exists for those who wish to employ it, or one may haul their own trash if they wish. Now, this private service doesn't supply trash cans, but the monthly service charge is a third of what my county charges. And of course, this private service never sends threatening letters to people for deciding not to do business with them. After all, that would be illegal, wouldn't it?

Oh, one last thing I almost forgot. Did you read about the Michigan woman who was fined $1000 and threatened with jail time because she allowed a friend's children to wait for the school bus with her kids? I'll bet she's having some thoughts against socialism.

Tail said...

Tracy's story would be a bit more believable if the opening didn't completely contradict reality. Right-wingers love to talk tough, particularly on the internet, but these keyboard commandos are always the first to start whining for help when things don't go their way. Just look at how the governors of Texas and Louisiana caved in after both spent several months trash-talking about the stimulus. And over the past eight years, you would have been very hard-pressed to find a single right-winger who didn't enthusiastically support Bush's unconstitutional expansion of executive power.

Anonymous said...

Sonny Perdue, Georgia's illustious governor, caused this flood so he should have to clean it up himself:

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2007-11-08-georgia-prayer_N.htm

Be careful what you wish for. It just might come true.

Anonymous said...

Republicans and Libertarians like to argue that the "free" market is the solution to everything and the government is the problem and the solution to nothing.

Ok, fine. Then let's get the government out of there and let the "free" market take over. We'll see how good of a solution that really is. How soon will it be until death and anarchy takes over? Somehow, I don't think the Republicans and Libertarians would really like to see the government doing less.

Anonymous said...

People who give simplistic answers to disasters, like a broken down car and getting help from their family, friends and church members, have never experienced a true disaster. Where every ones car and home is destroyed, where the church is gone as well as the bank and grocery store. The electricity is off, computers and phones don't work and the drinking water is polluted. The fact is there are circumstances beyond the abilities of local, county and even states to help everyone who needs help. This is the role for a national neighbor, FEMA, to help their stricken neighbors stabilizes a bad situation and help the community rebuild. I find it sad indeed the tendency of some pompous, self righteous people to boast about what they would do in an impossible situation, like some super hero, and who, in the same breath, kick at people who are truly devastated. They show more compassion to a dog then a fellow human being in need. Such are the delusion of Compassionate Conservatism. People in need are people in need, it's as simple as that. If these arrogant "bootstrappers" cannot understand that simple concept and continually point fingers of blame at unfortunate victims, there is no hope for them as a true child of God and no place in heaven for them on judgement day.

Repent your thoughts and ways your standing in God's eyes are at stake.